Saturday, August 29, 2015

Taking Champions out for a spin

So, after Adam's post about the epic-length Champions game in which he played as a child, I got pretty sentimental about Champions, Fourth Edition (aka the Big Blue Book).  Rather than bring in my entire, huge group of players, I decided to start small.  So, I made PC's for both kids, Bubblegum (Champions edition) for the daughter, a guy named "Kroxigor" for the son.  For those who follow these things, Bubblegum is a low-level martial artist with Entangle and Flash, Kroxigor is a straight up light brick at 250 pts.

First, Bubblegum encounters Pulsar attacking the police.  She does a good job switching between her gum powers and her martial arts.

Then, Bubblegum finds Kroxigor fighting Bluejay, who is attempting to recapture him and return him to his creators.  They make pretty quick work of her.

Then, back at the defunct Ultimate Posse headquarters, the pair hear that GRAB is robbing a bank.  Three villains is a lot for them to handle, and they'll have to coordinate their actions to beat them.  Sadly they don't, and both the heroes are knocked out and GRAB makes their getaway...

The group is mixed on it. I could tell they didn't like the weird OCV/DCV math, and the more rigid rules.  They also hated losing, but that happens in comic books....


  1. Not knowing a lot of the details of the way it was run (as opposed to the scenario itself) it's difficult for me to comment, but I like that you guys gave it a try.

    My only thought is, "the more rigid rules" - rigid in what way?

    1. I think what I really meant to say was "more rules" not exactly "more rigid," although they asked about Affiliation Dice (a great innovation of MHR). Champions is a "roll low to hit, roll high for damage" game, which most contemporary games don't do anymore, and that was counter-intuitive for them. They also had a little trouble with stunts vs. special effects. In some games, you can attempt a stunt and get some kind of effect. In Champions, it is just a special effect.
      e.g. Bubblegum's player was battling Pulsar. She asked how he was shooting his energy blast and I said "out of his hands." She then said she wanted to gum up his hands and I said, "fine, that's your Entangle." "No," she replied, "that's the power I use to gum up his whole body. I'm trying to do something specific." I'm not sure what she was aiming for there (no pun intended) but I just did the GM "sure, okay" response.

  2. I can't think of a bigger mindset jump than Marvel Heroic to Champions and that's exactly the kind of thing I'm thinking of. Champions is just a lot more specific about things and has a lot of old school "tells" like the roll low approach that newer players just don't get.

    I'm thinking you could try and use martial combat maneuvers as a "step-up" for creative thinking and stunts but even that may not cover everything a player can come up with. M&M has the array option but Champions has a hard time handling that on the fly.